Friday, 29 January 2016

HOW MUCH DO YOU KNOW ABOUT ROE? ARE YOU SWINDLED BY THE INFLATION?

HOW MUCH DO YOU KNOW ABOUT ROE? ARE YOU SWINDLED BY THE INFLATION?

Author: contemplator   |   Publish date: Wed, 13 May 2015, 02:38 PM

This is an article originally shared by MR Tan KW, i found the ROE discussion by Warren Buffett is SUPERB.

please read the article by this link:
http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/kianweiaritcles/75046.jsp

Orginally article from the Forbes:
http://fortune.com/2011/06/12/buffett-how-inflation-swindles-the-equity-investor-fortune-classics-1977/

WB explore more than the mere DuPont ROE that usually get analyzed. Every value investor should know the importance of ROE.

Following the thought of an legendary investor thrills me and it is fun (hopefully you also, I read this article twice only can understand it).
The presentation of data and thought is, I must say (in promotional tone) eloquent!

Enjoy your reading, the time will be well spend.

THE ULTIMATE QUEST OF VALUE INVESTORS

THE ULTIMATE QUEST OF VALUE INVESTORS

Author: contemplator   |   Publish date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015, 12:33 PM

This article is dedicated for value investors.




In October of 2009, Charlie Munger was interviewed on the BBC.


Here's what he had to say about Berkshire Hathaway's (BRKa) stock (it was down quite a bit at the time) and, more generally, the decline in common stocks.

So how much does Charlie worry when Berkshire's common stock declines?

"Zero. This is the third time that Warren and I have seen our holdings in Berkshire Hathaway go down, top tick to bottom tick, by 50%. I think it's in the nature of long term shareholding of the normal vicissitudes, in worldly outcomes, and in markets that the long-term holder has his quoted value of his stocks go down by say 50%. In fact, you can argue that if you're not willing to react with equanimity to a market price decline of 50% two or three times a century you're not fit to be a common shareholder, and you deserve the mediocre result you're going to get compared to the people who do have the temperament, who can be more philosophical about these market fluctuations."

In this BBC interview with Warren Buffett, also from back in 2009, here's what he had to say about the nature of stock markets.

"The very liquidity of stock markets causes people to focus on price action. If you buy an apartment house, if you buy a farm, if you buy a McDonald's franchise you don't think about what it's going sell for tomorrow or next week, or next month, you think about how is this business going to do. But stocks with this huge liquidity suck people in and they turn what should be an advantage into a disadvantage."

Then, later in the interview, Buffett said this about investment: 

"...you compare the net return to how much money you are laying out, that's investment." 

Finally, he added this:

"...you can still get in trouble if you pay too much, but you are focusing on the right thing if you look at the stream of income that the asset is going to produce over time."

Source of reference: http://theinvestmentsblog.blogspot.com/2013/02/charlie-munger-warren-buffett-market.html

Soooooo... what is the ultimate quest for an value investor?

1. Determine the intrinsic value of a business that has durable competitive advantages.

2. Buy at discount to its intrisic value. Price is what you pay value is what you get. (Shouldn't you be happy when the stock crashed by 50%? ringgit is definetely on big sales now yet the stock market on a tiny sales)
- the calculation of intrinsic value is an art rather than science. I believe the use of DCF, reverse DCF, evaluation of business indicators, scuttlebutt method should be applied and evaluated based on different situations.

3. Control your psychological misjudgements. If you can not tolerate the stock prices fall by 50%, you should buy very low cost index fund like Vanguard's. Sadly as i know, the ETFs in Bursa charges heavenly. Who knows how to buy the Vanguard's in US from Malaysia or Singapore please kindly enlighten me here. :)
- Charlie has a wonderful work on Human Psychological Misjudgement. Visit his Poor Charlie's Almanac will pay you handsomely.
- Price of stock has not relation to its value. Volatility is an intrinsic characteristic of stock. Measurement of beta is a foolish game. You just need to make sure you doen't overpay.
- Focus on absolute return but relative return.
- Microeconomics is what you should really focus rather than the macroeconomics. (You didn't play FOREX right?)


4. Value investment is simple but not easy.

Nooo stock  recommended by me to buy. Why?
-there is no free lunch in this world.
-many others already recommended stocks to be bought. Yet the decision for purchase will depends on your own answer to ULTIMATE QUEST (did this sounds like an examination?)
If you found my writing sounds logic, you can visit my previous blog:
http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/contemplator_bursamalaysia/76177.jsp



LASTLY, I urge all of us to help others that need our help. Do donate those who need our help (2.6 billion ringgit is not a donation).




INVESTMENT IS MOST INTELLIGENT WHEN IT IS MOST BUSINESS LIKE-- Benjamin Graham


Contemplator
13/8/2015

SOME THOUGHT ON ESOS, BONUS SHARE, SHARE SPLIT AND SHARE PRICE

SOME THOUGHT ON ESOS, BONUS SHARE, SHARE SPLIT AND SHARE PRICE

Author: contemplator   |   Publish date: Fri, 22 May 2015, 09:55 AM

THIS ARTICLE APPLIES TO VALUE INVESTING ONLY

I would like to point out a few irrational investing behaviours exhibited by some investors.
As important as it is to make correct decision, also equally essential to avoid mistake. As Charlie Munger urged: Inverse! Always Inverse!


1. ESOS (EMPLOYEE SHARE OPTION SCHEME)
ESOS is a scheme whereby the employee will be granted the right to subscribe the share option which enable them to buy the shares of the listed company at price far lower than its current market price.
From the view of a business owner, issuing ESOS is one of many ways for an employer to reward its employee. The unique thing about this scheme is that it enables its subscribers to own a fraction of the company they work for. In optimal situation, the option subscriber will work harder for that company that he/she also a fraction of it. Symbiosis for short.

Situation in Malaysia:
Warren Buffett: honesty is an expensive gift, don't expect it from cheap people.
Real situation here is whereby rather than concern about the benefits of shareholders (who is also owner of the company), the directors in the some companies care about themself more. One of the infamous thing that board of directors like to do is issue a large amount of ESOS and when they reach the limit of ESOS, they enlarge the limit. (No limit on irrationality either)
(A recent example would be VS, increasing its ESOS from 10% to 15% of total shares issued; I don't own shares of VS, i don't know what is its business, just giving an example)
The board of directors will eloquentlly argued that the issuing ESOS is to make sure all its outstanding employees contribute more to the company by increasing it ownership feeling and increase the willingness to retent in the company.
HOWEVER, THINK TWICE. Look into the ESOS scheme (another company that voraciously issue ESOS is Favelle Favco, IOI corp and IOI property). WHO GET MOST OF THE ESOS? The CEO/ directors of the board who are ALSO ALREADY THE LARGEST SHAREHOLDER. Meanwhile, the employees will get the smallest slices of the cake (ESOS subscription right). Directors who use the fund of the shareholders to fatten their own wallet is not a honest-to-god act.

ESOS will dilute the EPS, ROE and DY (anything else good missed?). Using the money and trust from the shareholders to voraciously enlarge their already biggest shareholding via ESOS, well can be viewed as a warning sign of no integrity in the management board. Furthermore, you will notice that the one who will rubberstamps the ESOS will be the largest shareholders as well. More viciously, they enlarge it when it limit of ESOS is reached. If such a company also "coincidentally" pays a lot of salary to its CEO, these combinations mean no good to your own wallet.

ESOS is not all bad, it is a good strategy, if used prudently. However if it turn sour, don't forget Warren Buffett's first and second rule of investing (don't loose; sounds don't buy their stock to me). Becareful when you see someone put too much source in your plate, like chilli sos, ketchup sos, soy bean sos etc, especially ESOS. It sucks.
Warren Buffett:
“Somebody once said that in looking for people to hire, you look for three qualities: integrity, intelligence, and energy. And if you don’t have the first, the other two will kill you. You think about it; it’s true. If you hire somebody without [integrity], you really want them to be dumb and lazy.”


2. Bonus share -- more correctly is Distrubution of treasury share or share dividend
The company fork out the its treasury shares (shares that the company buy back from the stock market) and distribute them to its shareholders by proportion of shares owned.
Regarding this, please read the Warren Buffett's letter to shareholders, the logic is all there. Thank you Warren.

Thinking back in Malaysia, although the shares buy back can be violated but the largest shareholders also receive collateral damage. Not as abusive as voracious ESOS.

3. SHARE SPLIT
A TOTALLY LESS USEFUL THING THAN IT PROPOSED and sometimes awful.
A simple arithmetic :
1 share of RM 10 = 2 shares of RM 5
An unusual phenomenon that yet keep happening in KLSE is that the share price of a stock will rise (without intelligent reason) after the share split. The board of directors will proudly say that the reason for share plit is to increase the availability/liquidity of the share. However I would say the unusual share price surge is the main factor that propels the directors to make such split.

The truth is:
1 share of RM 10 = 2 shares of RM 5 ≠ 2 share of RM 10

In fact what you need to sacrifice to get the "availability/liquidity"
a. lower EPS
b. lower DY

(again anything good not ruined?)

Some argued that share split will "release" the value of the company. Well what is its effect to EPS, DY?
Share split certainly have it purpose. But if you see a stock that have decent daily trading volume being proposed by its directors to do 1 to 1/2/3/4/5 split, after harness the unreasonable price hike, try to look for an exist mechanism when the risk outweight the profit.

4. SHARE PRICE
There is an unusual psychological misjudgment that happens to certain investors.
Stock price of RM 1 with PE 15 is more "buyable" than stock priced RM 10 but PE of 5.
Every often, some of my friends will tell me this stock is not suit for them because the price is over RM 10 so it is expensive.
This psychological misjudgment unfortunately is quite common. Again les't see what simple arithmetic will reveal:

Same share: 1 share of RM 10 = 2 shares of RM 5 = 4 shares of RM 2.5 = 8 shares of RM 1.25 = 16 shares of RM 0.6125

Oh arithmetic, is the mother of safety. John Bogle

The smallest quantity of share you can buy from KLSE is 100 shares. 100 shares of RM 10 will cost you 1K.
Stock ABC: ROE 10%, share price RM 1, cost of holding 1000 shares = 1K. Invested 1K have ROE of 10%
Stock XYZ: ROE 10%, share price RM 10, cost of holding 100 shares = 1K. Invested 1K have ROE of 10%
Stock 123: ROE 15%, share price RM 10, cost of holding 100 shares = 1K. Invested 1K have ROE of 15%

Avoid this simple psychological misjudgment if you meant to be a value investor.


In conclusion:
Becareful, sometimes the calculator of certain board directors works in arcane way, and your will found that you can outwit them in term of mathemetic.

A visit to Charlie Munger's Poor Charlie's Almanac is recommended. (I am gonna read some parts of it, again esp the psychological misjudgments)

Benjamin Graham:
Investment is most intelligent when it is most business like

Contemplator,
22/5/2015
-edited 27/5/2015

PS: if KLSE drop to 1000 points what will do you? Are you prepared for rainy day? Read my first blog if you are interested, my notions is shared there.

ARE YOU READY FOR THE RAINY DAY?

Author: contemplator   |   Publish date: Thu, 7 May 2015, 04:12 PM

This blog is dedicated for VALUE INVESTORS ONLY

HISTORY IS ALWAYS GONNA REPEAT ITSELF

Stock markets will always crash on certain day. We won't know when and we won't know how. Don't buy of story of somone can predict when the market will crash. Stock market is unpredictable. Reading articles about when market crash, how is the macroeconomics going to be is simply a waste of time. Future is unpredictable.

So..... What is the thing that you know and should do? Market will crash but we won't know when and we won't know how (just like i repeat this sentence before). You need to:
1. Review your capital allocation. Have you prepared for a crash that will happens tomorrow? Is your cash reserve enough? Do you have appropriate temperament control whereby some of your holdings will have their face value halved?

2. Unwanted risk minimization. Can you sleep like a baby during major market crash?

3. Are you prepared to buy the bargained deal? Any good value stock on watchlist? Do you have the guts to buy them? (the guts can be specified as calculated about the business, your notion about that particular stock)

There will always be times that the day will rain, don't prepare at last minutes.
Using some Warren Buffett's wisdom here:

Next up is cash. At a healthy business, cash is sometimes thought of as something to be minimized – as an unproductive asset that acts as a drag on such markers as return on equity. Cash, though, is to a business as oxygen is to an individual: never thought about when it is present, the only thing in mind when it is absent.-- BH Annual Report 2014.

WB: volatility is inherent characteristic of stock-- nothing to do with its value.


Just sharing my thought here.

Prudent investor should revisit chapter 8 and 20 of The Intellegent Investor, I found them highly useful and enjoyable (many times)

In contrast, Ben’s ideas were explained logically in elegant, easy-to-understand prose (without Greek
letters or complicated formulas). For me, the key points were laid out in what later editions labeled Chapters 8 and 20. (The original 1949 edition numbered its chapters differently.) These points guide my investing decisions today
.-- BH Annual Report 2013.


INVESTMENT IS MOST SUCCESSFUL WHEN IT IS MOST BUSINESS LIKE-- Benjamin Graham

Contemplator 7 May 2015